Bracket Banter is our daily open thread to discuss all things bracket. Readers can post comments and questions during the night's games, and we will answer those questions as the night goes on.Wednesday's Games
Could there finally be some shake-up on the 1 line? The top four teams in our bracket face tough road tests tonight as Duke plays at Florida State, Ohio State plays at Michigan, Kansas plays at Iowa State, and Syracuse plays at St. John's.
Elsewhere, there are two huge games on tap in the Big East with Georgetown (trying to avoid a 1-4 conference start) hosting Pittsburgh, and Villanova hosting Louisville. A loaded Big XII slate features Nebraska at Missouri, Oklahoma State at Texas A&M, and Colorado at Kansas State. In the Mountain West, unbeaten San Diego State kicks off a challenging week by playing host to UNLV. The second-seeded Aztecs play at New Mexico on Saturday. In the SEC, bracket newcomer Georgia plays at Vanderbilt.
Also keep an eye on: Colorado State at New Mexico, UMass at Xavier, St. Joseph's at Dayton, South Florida at Cincinnati, St. Bonaventure at Temple, Maryland at Wake Forest, Memphis at SMU, Wichita State at Creighton.
11 comments:
How worried should Georgetown be? Could they still make the tournament at 8-10 in the Big East?
There is a good chance for a team to go 8-10 in the Big East this year and get a bid. At this point there is no need to panic too much with Georgetown. If they start losing games to Big East bottom feeders then it is time to worry.
Why does Cincinnati get no credit from anyone? A 16 and 1 record is fantastic regardless of the opponent. How does SJU get a higher bid than Cincinnati? Is a win over a severely over-ranked Georgetown really worth that much? How is that not countered by losses to FOR, SBON, SMC, and barely being able to beat BALL and PROV?
None of Cincinnati's opponents have even come close to beating them. I honestly think all the bracketologists are smoking crack, and all the voters have had their heads up their asses for the past month.
You can think what ever you want, but the fact remains it does matter who you play and who you beat. Other than beating two bubble teams Dayton and Xavier at home, Cincy hasnt beat any tournament teams. In order to be a higher seed you gotta beat other tournament teams. St.Johns has done that.
Also keep in mind B101 factors in what he think will happen in Big East play and he probably thinks Cincy will go about 9-9.
St. Johns has 5 top 100 wins, 2 in the top 15, and beat #3 georgetown, sits at 12 in the RPI. Cincinatti has 1 top 100 win,is 61 in the RPI.
I'm assuming that, with a win saturday over NCSU, that Florida State will get back into the Bracket... Will they be able to avoid the Last 4 games?
Our readers beat up to the answer, but St. John's is ahead of Cincinnati right now because their two best wins (Georgetown, West Virginia) are better than Cincinnati's best wins (Xavier, Dayton) and because St. John's RPI is almost 50 points higher. We think Cincinnati will finish right around 9-9 in the Big East, which would likely get them a 9 or 10 seed.
As long as they don't lose to N.C. State, Florida State will be back in the bracket on Monday. Where exactly they end up depends on what happens this weekend, but they should avoid the First Four games.
I love the idea of giving credit to St. John's for beating a few good teams, and ignoring their terrible losses.... like a loss to a sub 200 RPI team.
And even if Cincy's opponents are considered so bad so their wins don't count for much, why exactly is San Diego considered so great? None of their opponents are currently ranked.
Even the basic system of RPI ranking is crap. WV isn't 14, it's unranked, Georgetown is not 7, and Syracuse is not #2, though they will be 3 next week. I don't get why silly computer rankings are given more weight than rankings by the actual coaches.
The RPI is objective, the polls are subjective. You just like the polls because your team is rated higher because you have 15 poor wins that really mean nothing.
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