tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post6003946594386596472..comments2024-01-27T06:41:13.204-05:00Comments on Bracketology 101: B101's Bracket Banter - WednesdayBracketology 101http://www.blogger.com/profile/01277396896660963269noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-91259150594446961292013-03-17T17:10:27.009-05:002013-03-17T17:10:27.009-05:00[p]Yet, continually exert understanding with regar...[p]Yet, continually exert understanding with regards to an internet site . This [url=http://www.fashionhermesbagsuk.co.uk]discount hermes bags kelly[/url] kind of bag is a well-known name within the industry of designer bags . If this suit isn't going to fits completely, you should not fret about it, I have ability to cope with the make a difference is only the Herve Leger gown which can be a bit of cake . 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And they were trying to project where the committee would have them, not where they thought UNI really belonged. <br /><br />It's more than eyeball tests. You're completely ignoring other numbers like the RPI itself or the Sagarin Ratings. Those are designed specifically to take into account divergent schedules. <br /><br />Quality Wins is the most overused term there is. Winning against the top 50 is great but there's a big differece between beating the #50 team and beating the #10 team. Beating #50 at home is vastly different from beating them on the road. Context is way more important than some raw figure. <br /><br />A road win against #90 is actually a better win than beating #50 at home. Sagarin's numbers show that a win at home against team #50 is about equal to a road win against team #120. Context.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-3326186090773612562011-02-19T04:27:11.333-05:002011-02-19T04:27:11.333-05:00Interesting... If only the committee had your phon...Interesting... If only the committee had your phone number on record to call you up and discuss "eyeball tests". Unfortunately you are ABSOLUTELY incorrect that Quality wins are "just a piece of the puzzle". They mean almost everything. If a team can't beat good teams, then guess what? They aren't good, no matter how many times they beat missouri state or drake.Willnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-38389977640741768812011-02-17T12:39:02.083-05:002011-02-17T12:39:02.083-05:00You're making a circular argument. The RPI sa...You're making a circular argument. The RPI said they were good. So did the Sagarin Ratings. They were 27-4, coming out of a good conference. Not Big 6 good, of course, but the champions of Big 6 conferences are typically battling for #1 seeds. I also knew they were good because I actually watched them play multiple times. Top 50 wins are just a piece of the puzzle, not the only piece. <br /><br />As to Notre Dame, yes they had some good wins but they also had 11 losses and 17 of their wins came at home.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-13767337942417837712011-02-17T12:18:13.476-05:002011-02-17T12:18:13.476-05:00Then where is your proof that UNI was good?Then where is your proof that UNI was good?Willnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-39072800342237011902011-02-17T12:16:35.618-05:002011-02-17T12:16:35.618-05:00Of course, I as much as said that in my last post....Of course, I as much as said that in my last post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-21164205124790703132011-02-17T12:10:54.678-05:002011-02-17T12:10:54.678-05:00Then it's irrelevant that UNI beat KU, right?Then it's irrelevant that UNI beat KU, right?Willnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-10141421518645473692011-02-17T10:50:23.545-05:002011-02-17T10:50:23.545-05:00mag, why do you assume that it wasn't possible...mag, why do you assume that it wasn't possible to know that UNI was better than a 9 seed before they beat Kansas? I can't retroactively type this, as of March 15, last year. Even if they'd have lost to Kansas, they were better than a 9 seed. <br /><br />Everyone is making the mistake of assuming that I'm commenting based solely on what happened in the tourney. Who cares when Villanova lost? Completely irrelevant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-81664428337416236562011-02-17T10:26:02.352-05:002011-02-17T10:26:02.352-05:00Aside from RPI, can you give me another reason UNI...Aside from RPI, can you give me another reason UNI should have been seeded higher?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-24308124713680119312011-02-17T10:16:16.129-05:002011-02-17T10:16:16.129-05:00And no. 11 Villanova, who lost second round, 15 pi...And no. 11 Villanova, who lost second round, 15 pitt, in the second, Texas A&M, who lost in the second round... In fact, 7 of the top 16 lost in either the first or second round.Willnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-44975477786690628572011-02-17T10:13:14.493-05:002011-02-17T10:13:14.493-05:00it's completely revisionist history to claim t...it's completely revisionist history to claim that UNI should have been seeded higher AFTER it beat kansas. so it had an rpi of 17? bfd. where should temple have been seeded with its rpi 8 and first round loss? what about new mexico and its rpi of 10 and a 3 seed that barely squeaked by 14-seed montana and then got blown out in the 2nd round?<br /><br />the committee usually screws up plenty of seeds but i have absolutely no sympathy for kansas last year having to play a mid-major in the 2nd round that actually was a good team.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14528272793562071068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-72002341597222607242011-02-17T10:09:18.807-05:002011-02-17T10:09:18.807-05:00Forgot Georgetown, who was #7, and lost first roun...Forgot Georgetown, who was #7, and lost first round.Willnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-81987355034608432362011-02-17T10:08:11.963-05:002011-02-17T10:08:11.963-05:00Or... Temple at 8 RPI lost first round. Vandy at 2...Or... Temple at 8 RPI lost first round. Vandy at 26 lost first round, Utah state at 30 lost in the first round, UNM at 10 lost second round, KU at 1 lost in the second round...Willnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-56985772270159051952011-02-17T10:01:13.852-05:002011-02-17T10:01:13.852-05:00Temple was 8, and a 5 seed. Tell you anything?
I ...Temple was 8, and a 5 seed. Tell you anything?<br /><br />I think RPI tends to be a ridiculously overused stat. And in case you didn't notice, I used tournament seeds, not RPI. UNI didn't beat any teams that made the tourney, Notre dame beat 4 teams that got top 3 seeds.Willnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-86968502938920661782011-02-17T09:53:34.193-05:002011-02-17T09:53:34.193-05:00Wisky already beat OSU, so they have the edge unti...Wisky already beat OSU, so they have the edge until Purdue beats OSU.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-31975448644399907922011-02-17T09:44:23.077-05:002011-02-17T09:44:23.077-05:00Will, it's more difficult but far from impossi...Will, it's more difficult but far from impossible to determine where a team like UNI ought to be seeded. And it's not mere revisionist history to say they should have been a six seed. And no, Murray State wasn't a six seed because the OVC isn't the MVC. They were better than a 13 seed though. <br /><br />First, maybe UNI finsihing with an RPI of 17 might be trying to tell you something. I happen to think that the RPI is a pretty flimsy formula but you still have to consider the possibility. And if the RPI is so unreliable that a team ranked 17th is really a nine seed, how can you trust the formula to tell you how many top 50wins a team has? Completely convoluted logic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-83252024496274707622011-02-17T09:00:32.624-05:002011-02-17T09:00:32.624-05:00If texas wins out, the furthest they'll have t...If texas wins out, the furthest they'll have to travel, likely, for the tournament will be their first round site... They won't leave the state for the other two roundsWillnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-48122618035672113482011-02-17T08:44:01.075-05:002011-02-17T08:44:01.075-05:00It is too early to answer the Purdue/Wisconsin que...It is too early to answer the Purdue/Wisconsin question since they both have to play Ohio State. If OSU loses to either team, you would think that team would have the inside track to a better seed and Chicago. Of course, that is advantage Purdue sicne their game is at home. Purdue and Wisconsin will likely meet again in the Big Ten Tournament semfinal. Maybe that game determines who gets Chicago.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09950409970670730043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-81820629353182465252011-02-17T08:29:34.279-05:002011-02-17T08:29:34.279-05:00St. Mary's at-large chances are by no means cr...St. Mary's at-large chances are by no means crippled, but they need to at worst split their remaining games against Utah State and Gonzaga to feel totally safe.Bracketology 101https://www.blogger.com/profile/01277396896660963269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-33016617220549082942011-02-17T08:27:47.907-05:002011-02-17T08:27:47.907-05:00The biggest winner last night, other than Cincinna...The biggest winner last night, other than Cincinnati, might have been Gonzaga. St. Mary's inexplicable loss at San Diego left the Zags just a game behind in the loss column in the WCC standings. If Gonzaga wins at St. Mary's next Thursday, the two teams will likely end up sharing the WCC regular season title. That would be an unexpected and much-needed addition to the Zags' resume, which could help them snag an at-large if they advance to the WCC tourney final.Bracketology 101https://www.blogger.com/profile/01277396896660963269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-19740642216551395302011-02-17T08:20:30.522-05:002011-02-17T08:20:30.522-05:00Notre Dame had 2 wins over a 3 seed, a win over a ...Notre Dame had 2 wins over a 3 seed, a win over a different 3 seed, a win over a 2 seed, and a six seed. UNI had no good wins. Sorry, but revisionist history isn't THAT incorrect. Notre Dame deserved to be 3 seed lines higher, if not more.Willnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-78362246355244063382011-02-17T08:04:25.947-05:002011-02-17T08:04:25.947-05:00The problem with teams without quality wins isn...The problem with teams without quality wins isn't that they aren't good, it's that you don't know how good they are. UNI won the game, so revisionist history says they should've been a 5 seed or something, but without any of the comparison vs other good teams that games against quality opponents offers, it's really pompous to assume that they should have had a higher seed. 28-4 with no good wins DESERVES a #9 seed. Murray State was 30-4. Did they deserve a 5-6 seed? No, the same way UNI didn't.Willnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-20317666010769169032011-02-17T07:58:13.638-05:002011-02-17T07:58:13.638-05:00mag900, nobody is feeling sorry for Kansas. It...mag900, nobody is feeling sorry for Kansas. It's merely an interesting observation. They would up with a team in the 2nd round that should have been about a 6 seed instead of a 9 seed. The bigger issue is the committee not being able to adequately seed teams like UNI. <br /><br />Last year, UNI and Notre Dame could have flipped seeds. The Irish were barely a bubble team a couple of weeks before the end of the regular season. They play very well for three weeks or so and are suddenly a 6 seed. Ridiculous.Todd Lucashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01121569810897361036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-40091748268337792652011-02-17T07:10:38.221-05:002011-02-17T07:10:38.221-05:00@ Anonymous (11:50): The Big East would have a ver...@ Anonymous (11:50): The Big East would have a very good chance of getting two 1s if that scenario unfolded.<br /><br />@AG: We still like Wisconsin a little better than Purdue because they did more OOC and they have two more Top 50 wins. The Boilermakers can close the gap, and maybe pass the Badgers, though, with a win over Ohio State this weekend.<br /><br />@Anonymous (7:00): Yes, the CAA can still get two bids if Mason wins the conference tourney. ODU would be that at-large team.Bracketology 101https://www.blogger.com/profile/01277396896660963269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-26962273582102503322011-02-17T07:00:05.845-05:002011-02-17T07:00:05.845-05:00If George Mason wins the CAA tournament, can the C...If George Mason wins the CAA tournament, can the CAA still be a two bid league?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com