tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post114136524389129266..comments2024-01-27T06:41:13.204-05:00Comments on Bracketology 101: Friday's Games to WatchBracketology 101http://www.blogger.com/profile/01277396896660963269noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141605843939451772006-03-05T19:44:00.000-05:002006-03-05T19:44:00.000-05:00FSU should be in after today's win, but a loss to ...FSU should be in after today's win, but a loss to Wake in the ACC tourney would put them out, and deservedly so. I think they have bumped Syracuse and Creighton to the NIT unless the deacons pull the upset.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141491365834096672006-03-04T11:56:00.000-05:002006-03-04T11:56:00.000-05:00Why would you bother analyzing two teams schedules...Why would you bother analyzing two teams schedules in the same conference to determine who is more deserving, when the two teams met head to head, and Seton Hall BEAT Syracuse ON THE ROAD.<BR/><BR/>Not only will Seton Hall BEAT Syracuse straight up on the road, but they will finish 2 games ahead of Syracuse in the Big East, but they have 5 top 50 RPI wins to Syracuse's 2 top 5 RPI wins.<BR/><BR/>If Syracuse had a tougher schedule than Seton Hall, wouldn't that mean that they had MORE opportunities for quality wins?<BR/><BR/>How is it that Seton Hall has 5 top 50 RPI wins if Syracuse had so many more opportutnies. This is another case of misplacing the importance of good losses over good wins.<BR/><BR/>Luckily, since the Hall and Cuse played each other head to head, you can actually see how they match up against each other. The fact that Seton Hall took the Orange to the woodshed in the Carrierdome says it all. If you can't understand that, you should stand in a corner with a dunce cap on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141489674306951912006-03-04T11:27:00.000-05:002006-03-04T11:27:00.000-05:00Did you compare their schedule to Syracuse. Seton ...Did you compare their schedule to Syracuse. Seton Hall played St. johns, South Florida, & Rutgers twice. Syracuse played UConn, Villanova, & Cincy twice. Records can be very deserving. But who care that Seton Hall played the cupcakes twice? right "genius"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141487495290000582006-03-04T10:51:00.000-05:002006-03-04T10:51:00.000-05:00Hey Genius.Seton Hall BEAT Syracuse by 6 AT Syracu...Hey Genius.<BR/><BR/>Seton Hall BEAT Syracuse by 6 AT Syracuse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141486417117208592006-03-04T10:33:00.000-05:002006-03-04T10:33:00.000-05:00Syracuse would save their season with a win over N...Syracuse would save their season with a win over Nova tomorrow. Have any of you actually compare Seton Hall & Syracuse Big East schedule. Seton Hall had much easier home-home games.<BR/><BR/>Seton Hall Syracuse<BR/><BR/>Rutgers UConn<BR/>St. Johns Villanova<BR/>South Florida Cincinnati<BR/><BR/>While Seton Hall got to play bottum feeder 2 times, Syracuse had to play 2 #1 seeds twice & a very good Cincy teamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141481894683193422006-03-04T09:18:00.000-05:002006-03-04T09:18:00.000-05:00I agree, give me a team with 5 good wins (includin...I agree, give me a team with 5 good wins (including a couple of good road wins) and 5 bad losses, over a team with 0 good wins and 0 bad losses. There are no home games in the tournament, and any win is a good win.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141474682841869772006-03-04T07:18:00.000-05:002006-03-04T07:18:00.000-05:00Seton Hall walks in with win over Pitt. Now lets ...Seton Hall walks in with win over Pitt. Now lets hope the committee does the right thing with Syracuse and sends them to the NIT. Talking head Majerus said Thursday night that the Orangemen deserve to get in because of his respect for Jim Boeheim. What criteria is that? Plus, if you listen to Bilas and Digger on ESPN they have everyone getting in -- The tournamet will have 90 teams.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141473716789965242006-03-04T07:01:00.000-05:002006-03-04T07:01:00.000-05:00I see a lot of talk on this board about the merits...I see a lot of talk on this board about the merits of "good wins" vs "bad losses." To me, "good wins" should be given much more weight than bad losses. Seton Hall is a good example. In their last 6 games of the season, they played West Virginia, Notre Dame, St. John's, DePaul, Cincy and Pitt.<BR/><BR/>They went 3-3. The 3 wins were 2 top 10 RPI wins and 1 top 25 RPI win. The three losses were bad losses. If they had beaten the bad teams and lost to the top teams, I think they would still be on the bubble. Beating 3 top 25 RPI teams in the last 3 weeks of the season is an indication that you can compete with the quality of teams that will play in the NCAA tournament. There are no "bad losses" in the NCAA tournament at the seeding that Seton Hall will get.<BR/><BR/>Good wins, (ie handing Pitt there only home loss of the season) speak volumes about the ability of a team to step its level of play to compete in the NCAA tournament. A team like Colorado, that generally takes care of business, but can't beat anyone on the road and rarely beats a team ahead of it in the RPI, is little threat at tourney time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141458421573273222006-03-04T02:47:00.000-05:002006-03-04T02:47:00.000-05:00UNI is definetly in now. SIU needs a win over Wich...UNI is definetly in now. SIU needs a win over Wichita or they are done. Bradley though might be in regardless now. They took 2 out of 3 from Creighton, split with Missouri State, and already beat UNI twice. With the way Bradley finished they are ahead of Creighton at this point. Missouri State should feel pretty safe. They split with UNI, Creighton, Bradley, and SIU in the regular season and didn't have any bad losses so they are in. Creighton has to chear hard for Wichita to beat SIU tomorrow because if the Salukis can pull off the upset tomorrow they will be ahead of the Bluejays because of the head to head sweep and given the fact that they are in the tourney championship game. At this point I think the order is 1. Wichita State 2. UNI 3. Missouri State 4. Bradley 5. Creighton 6. SIU. The conference is looking good for 5 bids right now but that sixth bid will probably get squeezed throughout the rest of championship week.Bracketology 101https://www.blogger.com/profile/01277396896660963269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141448689493963772006-03-04T00:04:00.000-05:002006-03-04T00:04:00.000-05:00Northern Iowa & Seton Hall punched their tickets f...Northern Iowa & Seton Hall punched their tickets for the big dance. I still think Creighton will get an at large. If SIU & Bradley both lose tomorrow, IMO they are both out. I have been crunching the numbers & Colorado is not going to make it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141444317284180492006-03-03T22:51:00.000-05:002006-03-03T22:51:00.000-05:00rt miller...I did not know the NCAA gave birth ???...rt miller...<BR/><BR/>I did not know the NCAA gave birth ???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141440465504374172006-03-03T21:47:00.000-05:002006-03-03T21:47:00.000-05:00Seton Hall is in!Seton Hall is in!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141432744540224002006-03-03T19:39:00.000-05:002006-03-03T19:39:00.000-05:00You ACC guys are a farce. Back up your arguments ...You ACC guys are a farce. Back up your arguments with facts instead of throwing bombs. <BR/><BR/>As for Bradley, huge win. They also played a portion of their schedule without O'Bryant, which is when they tanked. They are hot, and if they do beat Wichita, they are in. A team no 2 or 3 seed wants to see in the second round. <BR/><BR/>Nice job Syracuse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141430888108355982006-03-03T19:08:00.000-05:002006-03-03T19:08:00.000-05:00The Bradley win today makes it much more difficult...The Bradley win today makes it much more difficult to put Creighton in without Bradley, but not impossible. Bradley has played much better of late than Creighton (8-2 last 10 games vs. 6-4), and beat Creighton twice. On the other hand, where Crieghton has a slight advantage is in their OOC wins. Creighton beat George Mason and Nebraska OOC, which is better than Creighton's wins over Western Kentucky and DePaul. Creighton was also a game better in conference and will have an RPI that is slightly higher (8 or so spots in the end probably). There is still a lot of basketball to be played, but right now Bradley is looking better and better (an absolute lock with one more win), and Creighton has to hope their late season struggles are overshadowed by some good conference and pretty good OOC wins.<BR/><BR/>The Cal-Stanford argument is a good one. If Stanford beats UCLA and Cal loses to USC, Cal would probably still have the slightest of edges going into the Pac-10 tournament for a couple reasons: Cal would have one more top 50 win than Stanford, Stanford would have worse "bad" losses (UC-everyone is worse than Oregon State and Arizona State), and Cal would have the best win of the two - a win at UCLA, where Stanford lost big. Remember, there is also a chance that these two teams could play in the Pac-10 tourney, which if your scenario unfolded, would obviously be an elimination game for both.Bracketology 101https://www.blogger.com/profile/01277396896660963269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141427125037550772006-03-03T18:05:00.000-05:002006-03-03T18:05:00.000-05:00Is there a chance Stanford could get in ahead of C...Is there a chance Stanford could get in ahead of Cal if they finish ahead of them in PAC 10 standings? Cal has a very poor resume. They have 3 top 50 wins but also have 3 very bad losses. Nobody who loses to Arizona State & Oregon State belongs in the bracket!! DO you think they should Chris/Craig?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141426482990242862006-03-03T17:54:00.000-05:002006-03-03T17:54:00.000-05:00If Creighton is in, Bradley has to get in then, re...If Creighton is in, Bradley has to get in then, regardless of whether they beat the Shockers tomorrow. They beat Creighton 2 out of 3. SOS will be almost identical. Wins vs top 50 will be better. Last 10 record is better. RPI will be almost identical. How can you let in Creighton without Bradley too?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141425858852302722006-03-03T17:44:00.000-05:002006-03-03T17:44:00.000-05:00Great win for Bradley today. It will be a long 9 d...Great win for Bradley today. It will be a long 9 day wait for Creighton but I think they will get in as an at large.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141422831169256562006-03-03T16:53:00.000-05:002006-03-03T16:53:00.000-05:00RT Miller!!!!!!!!!!!finally someone agrees with me...RT Miller!!!!!!!!!!!<BR/><BR/><BR/>finally someone agrees with me on here, for a while i was thinking only Mid major fans were on this blog, nice to know someone out there agrees with meAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141418832138292032006-03-03T15:47:00.000-05:002006-03-03T15:47:00.000-05:00I've been comparing UCLA and Georgetown this week,...I've been comparing UCLA and Georgetown this week, especially in light of the number of brackets that have them meeting in the second round (UCLA a #4 and Georgetown a #5). If you look deeper than the RPI number, Georgetown appears to have a stronger (or at least as strong) resume. I can understand many people have them winning the PAC-10 tourney, and factoring one or two more quality wins I can certainly consider them ahead, but look at the profiles right now:<BR/><BR/>UCLA<BR/>Record 23-6<BR/>vs. RPI top 100: 7-5<BR/>RPI: 16<BR/>SOS: 28<BR/>Top 25 (RPI) Wins: 3 (Arizona x2 (19), Nevada(25))<BR/>Losees outside Top 25: 4 (Washington (29) x2, Cal (62), USC (110))<BR/><BR/>Georgetown:<BR/>Record 19-7<BR/>vs. RPI top 100: 8-7<BR/>RPI: 21<BR/>SOS: 49<BR/>Top 25 Wins: 2 (Duke (1), Pitt (7))<BR/>Losees outside Top 25: 1 (Vanderbilt (60))<BR/><BR/>It certainly appears to me that you can't rank UCLA higher on quality wins, nor can you rank them higher on bad losses. The only justification I see for ranking UCLA higher is their better record, which in this case is merely a function of:<BR/>1) UCLA has played 3 more games<BR/>2) UCLA has played 17 teams with RPI 100+<BR/><BR/>These are just my thoughts, I'd appreciate other's opinions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141414313298053362006-03-03T14:31:00.000-05:002006-03-03T14:31:00.000-05:00ok.....if you want to leave them out if they lose ...ok.....if you want to leave them out if they lose to miami on sunday with an 18-9 record and 8-8 in the ACC, thats fine.......as long as you think that Southern Illinois and Bradley or Creighton should not get in as well, because all 4 have similar overall records, SIU, Bradley, Creighton teams have no top 25 wins, while fsu beat duke once, and outplayed them twice.....comparing conference records is invalid because Drake, Indiana St., Illinois St. and Evansville are not even close to Wake Forest, GT, Clemson, and Virginia TechAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141411481055372502006-03-03T13:44:00.000-05:002006-03-03T13:44:00.000-05:00To the FSU-is-better-than-any-MVC-bubble-team kool...To the FSU-is-better-than-any-MVC-bubble-team koolaid drinker, in the words of the late Ronald Reagan, "Well, there you go again".<BR/><BR/>We get you anti-MVC spiel, and we disagree with it(at least I do). Call me when you beat Miami, in Miami which if they don't, makes it harder for them to be actually in the field, barring an ACC tourney run.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141406870870410812006-03-03T12:27:00.000-05:002006-03-03T12:27:00.000-05:00What, then, is your criteron for picking the best ...What, then, is your criteron for picking the best 34 at-large teams? Does "best" mean:<BR/>- capable of beating higher seeds,<BR/>- consistently playing at a higher level than other teams<BR/><BR/>I think the committee has a different definition of "best" than you do.<BR/><BR/>And I really have to disagree with your last statemnt. We have no idea where N Ia, or S Ill, or Creighton would be if they were in a big conference. <BR/>Yes, they'd have to play Duke, UConn, etc., but they would also get home games vs. the middle of the pack teams (Maryland, Syracuse, Wisconsin) that can't play on the road. <BR/>And we do have a few examples from this year:<BR/>N Iowa winning vs Iowa and AT LSU<BR/>Creighton beating Nebraska<BR/>Bucknell beating Syracuse IN SYRACUSE<BR/>(and then there is Wichita's 55-54 loss to Illinois on a neutral court).<BR/><BR/>These teams would then finally have the chance to play games at home. They're not going to be on the road for all 16 games in conference. <BR/><BR/>Given that, it's reasonable to think that these teams could finish 9-7 or so in the ACC, Big Ten, etc. <BR/><BR/>If you don't think so, then why don't we just invite South Florida, Penn St. and Virginia Tech to the big dance and call it a day.....Eric Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04267635974140802235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141406159209009662006-03-03T12:15:00.000-05:002006-03-03T12:15:00.000-05:00What will happen if BYU wins the MWC tournament? ...What will happen if BYU wins the MWC tournament? The Cougars look poised to take the crown.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141405231579777742006-03-03T12:00:00.000-05:002006-03-03T12:00:00.000-05:00No team that lost 3 times to Clemson deserves an a...No team that lost 3 times to Clemson deserves an at large bid. that MD. fan needs his mommy to hand him a kleenexAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072987.post-1141404557234773812006-03-03T11:49:00.000-05:002006-03-03T11:49:00.000-05:00I agree with the fact that MD choked down the stre...I agree with the fact that MD choked down the stretch, and didn't win games they needed to, hence why they did not get a bid....trust me, i'm not crying about it, to me, the fact that a bubble team can sweep a 1 seed, they can play with anyone in the country, and could make a special run in the NCAA's, but for some reason, we're all about these mid majors in recent years....this year especially, i just don't think those programs have an honest shot at making a long run in the tourney, last year's MD team(not deserving of a bid) had a better chance of beating high seeds than any of these mid major at large's who win 20+ games beating 6 teams who's RPI is like at best #30, and then people make this argument about top 50 RPI wins, when none of them come against top tear teams, who really cares if you beat so so teams that happen to have some computer ranking better than 50....so this year, FSU hands down would have a better shot at upsetting high seeded teams than a team like Bradley, while these teams may win a first round game, i guarantee by the end of the first weekend, there might be one left, so i guess CBS, NCAA both love these cinderalla stories, but as a big cbball fan, would rather see the best teams, with the best chance of parody in the tourney...we all know if any of those MVC teams played in the ACC or Big Ten or Big East, we wouldn't even be talking about them right now, just think about it....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com